Comments for Gymbits http://www.gymbits.com Random tidbits from the world of gymnastics Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:09:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 Comment on In the case of Dong Fangxiao… by Gymbit http://www.gymbits.com/news/in-the-case-of-dong-fangxiao#comment-1191 Gymbit Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:11:25 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=389#comment-1191 I'm not sure on the details, but I think there was some sort of arbitrary 10-year limit imposed on investigations. Maybe it also depends on how many complaints there are from other national federations, and if it reached the mainstream media as it did with He Kexin and Deng Linlin in Beijing. Cheapredwine on the GGMB pointed out that other countries perhaps don't make as much of a scene if the gymnast has been round all quadrennium leading up to the Olympics, as opposed to just showing up for the main event as He and Deng did in 2008. Lux Lisbon also pointed out that when Bicherova, Mostepanova, Silivas and Marinescu competed underage, it didn't necessarily change the results; the Soviets and Romanians would likely have won just as many medals with other gymnasts! If the third place standings from the 1999 Tianjin Worlds and the 2000 Sydney Olympics are stripped from China, I would be interested to see what happens to the actual bronze medals, and what sort of ceremony or medals the Ukrainians and Americans would receive a decade later. I’m not sure on the details, but I think there was some sort of arbitrary 10-year limit imposed on investigations. Maybe it also depends on how many complaints there are from other national federations, and if it reached the mainstream media as it did with He Kexin and Deng Linlin in Beijing. Cheapredwine on the GGMB pointed out that other countries perhaps don’t make as much of a scene if the gymnast has been round all quadrennium leading up to the Olympics, as opposed to just showing up for the main event as He and Deng did in 2008. Lux Lisbon also pointed out that when Bicherova, Mostepanova, Silivas and Marinescu competed underage, it didn’t necessarily change the results; the Soviets and Romanians would likely have won just as many medals with other gymnasts!

If the third place standings from the 1999 Tianjin Worlds and the 2000 Sydney Olympics are stripped from China, I would be interested to see what happens to the actual bronze medals, and what sort of ceremony or medals the Ukrainians and Americans would receive a decade later.

]]> Comment on In the case of Dong Fangxiao… by RJL http://www.gymbits.com/news/in-the-case-of-dong-fangxiao#comment-1190 RJL Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:17:05 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=389#comment-1190 I don't get why sometimes the FIG looks into it and sometimes it doesn't. If team medals are stripped in this case, how would they be re-distributed? Will someone show up at the Chinese gymnasts' homes to collect the medals, and then deliver them to the Americans?! I don’t get why sometimes the FIG looks into it and sometimes it doesn’t. If team medals are stripped in this case, how would they be re-distributed? Will someone show up at the Chinese gymnasts’ homes to collect the medals, and then deliver them to the Americans?!

]]> Comment on Sport Seneca Style by Luisa Portocarrero – balance beam — Gymnastics Coaching.com http://www.gymbits.com/training/sport-seneca-style#comment-1186 Luisa Portocarrero – balance beam — Gymnastics Coaching.com Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:05:17 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=239#comment-1186 [...] I was reminded of Luisa after seeing this routine linked from a Gymbits post – Sport Seneca Style. [...] [...] I was reminded of Luisa after seeing this routine linked from a Gymbits post – Sport Seneca Style. [...]

]]> Comment on Japanese Robot Performs a Kovacs! by RJL http://www.gymbits.com/fun/japanese-robot-performs-a-kovacs#comment-1185 RJL Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:20:52 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=379#comment-1185 Japanese gymnasts (both human and mechanical) are such innovators of the sport!! Japanese gymnasts (both human and mechanical) are such innovators of the sport!!

]]> Comment on Japanese Robot Performs a Kovacs! by robot gymnast doing Kovacs — Gymnastics Coaching.com http://www.gymbits.com/fun/japanese-robot-performs-a-kovacs#comment-1182 robot gymnast doing Kovacs — Gymnastics Coaching.com Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:15:17 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=379#comment-1182 [...] Gymbits posted an update on that Japanese robot that swings on a bar. [...] [...] Gymbits posted an update on that Japanese robot that swings on a bar. [...]

]]> Comment on Taking a Tumble by Grouch http://www.gymbits.com/fun/taking-a-tumble#comment-1180 Grouch Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:00:23 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=221#comment-1180 "Here’s another neck injury where the coach knew exactly what to do, and Cosmina Paulescu was immediately immobilized after crashing her double pike bars dismount at the 2005 Romanian National Championships. She has since recovered." I have always found this clip disturbing because it does not appear to me that her coach(es) responded appropriately to what could have been a very serious spinal injury. One (and maybe both, towards the end of the video) coaches put their hand under her head. This doesn't do much. At the 0:24 mark, you can see the gymnast (or the coach)lift up her head. If her head and spine were appropriately immobilized, this would not happen. I suppose they could do it differently in Romania... but if that's the way they do it, it isn't very effective and does not do much to immobilize the head and neck. These two links will take you to pictures of how a head/neck should be immobilized when a spinal injury is suspected. http://www.dkimages.com/discover/DKIMAGES/Discover/Home/Health-and-Beauty/First-Aid/Neck-Injuries/Neck-Injuries-02.html http://www.dkimages.com/discover/DKIMAGES/Discover/Home/Health-and-Beauty/First-Aid/Neck-Injuries/Neck-Injuries-11.html “Here’s another neck injury where the coach knew exactly what to do, and Cosmina Paulescu was immediately immobilized after crashing her double pike bars dismount at the 2005 Romanian National Championships. She has since recovered.”

I have always found this clip disturbing because it does not appear to me that her coach(es) responded appropriately to what could have been a very serious spinal injury. One (and maybe both, towards the end of the video) coaches put their hand under her head. This doesn’t do much. At the 0:24 mark, you can see the gymnast (or the coach)lift up her head. If her head and spine were appropriately immobilized, this would not happen.

I suppose they could do it differently in Romania… but if that’s the way they do it, it isn’t very effective and does not do much to immobilize the head and neck.

These two links will take you to pictures of how a head/neck should be immobilized when a spinal injury is suspected.

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/DKIMAGES/Discover/Home/Health-and-Beauty/First-Aid/Neck-Injuries/Neck-Injuries-02.html

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/DKIMAGES/Discover/Home/Health-and-Beauty/First-Aid/Neck-Injuries/Neck-Injuries-11.html

]]> Comment on Putting the “Artistic” back in Gymnastics by Gymbit http://www.gymbits.com/artistry/putting-the-artistic-back-in-gymnastics#comment-1173 Gymbit Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:49:15 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=371#comment-1173 Yes, I actually like seeing these creative ways of dancing out of a tumbling pass, even though it's obvious the only reason for it is to avoid deduction. I also like how Anna Myzdrikova throws a back tuck after her triple twist. Here she is at the 2009 Glasgow World Cup event. [youtube wpCVGj5u1mU] All the emphasis on sticking landings is not good for the gymnasts' bodies. I see nothing wrong with a controlled step backwards after a difficult tumbling element! Yes, I actually like seeing these creative ways of dancing out of a tumbling pass, even though it’s obvious the only reason for it is to avoid deduction. I also like how Anna Myzdrikova throws a back tuck after her triple twist. Here she is at the 2009 Glasgow World Cup event.

All the emphasis on sticking landings is not good for the gymnasts’ bodies. I see nothing wrong with a controlled step backwards after a difficult tumbling element!

]]> Comment on Putting the “Artistic” back in Gymnastics by RJL http://www.gymbits.com/artistry/putting-the-artistic-back-in-gymnastics#comment-1172 RJL Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:25:47 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=371#comment-1172 Great examples! I think that with the new deductions for not sticking the landings of tumbling passes on women's floor, more gymnasts will come up with creative ideas to dance out of their landings to avoid deductions (like Lauren Mitchell does a couple of times in her routine). Great examples! I think that with the new deductions for not sticking the landings of tumbling passes on women’s floor, more gymnasts will come up with creative ideas to dance out of their landings to avoid deductions (like Lauren Mitchell does a couple of times in her routine).

]]> Comment on Taking a Tumble by Timothy http://www.gymbits.com/fun/taking-a-tumble#comment-1171 Timothy Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:52:23 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=221#comment-1171 Holy cow...Yukio Iketani's hurt to watch. Knowing what a jerk he is, I thought it would be schadenfreude classic...but ouch. *clutches throat* Holy cow…Yukio Iketani’s hurt to watch. Knowing what a jerk he is, I thought it would be schadenfreude classic…but ouch. *clutches throat*

]]> Comment on 2009 World Champions by RJL http://www.gymbits.com/news/2009-world-champions#comment-1167 RJL Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:57:00 +0000 http://www.gymbits.com/?p=341#comment-1167 Great recap of the new world champions! It was a very high quality competition featuring a nice mix of experienced gymnasts and newcomers. Great recap of the new world champions! It was a very high quality competition featuring a nice mix of experienced gymnasts and newcomers.

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